- “Discuss” — along with “write,” “analyze,” “answer” (as a verb), “respond” (as in: respond to a prompt), “compare,” “contrast,” and “argue” are not synonyms for “plagiarize the living fuck out of a Wikipedia article.” This is why I hate take-home exams. I spend more time sorting out plagiarism that actually grading papers.
- Trying to guilt me into upping your grade by telling me if you fail this class your parents will kill you, take away privileges or that you won’t be allowed to come back to school for the spring semester is not going to work.
- Asking me the parameters and scope of a paper assignment the morning of day the God damned thing is due is fairly stupid. If I get an e-mail thirty minutes before class starts, and then you’re absent, I know what’s up.
- When I occasionally give an essay exam, I enjoy it when students leave problems blank on exams. It makes grading the exams really easy and really quick – because I know the alternative was a total bullshit answer that would have required 2-3 minutes of untangling before garnering the same zero points.
- The correct time to email me about what you can do to raise your grade is before we get so far into the term that it’s impossible, and most definitely before grades have closed. I’m not going to sport you fifteen extra grade points (especially considering it would only get you to a “D,” which still mandates a re-take), nor do I want to go through the goat-rope of grade-change forms.
- It’s “for all intents and purposes,” not “for all intensive purposes.” Don’t make me want to club you with my Norton anthology.
- Having your mom call to to try and arrange/force me in to some sort of intensive, two-week Christmas crash course to improve your failing grade will not work, and I will think that you are pathetic for getting your mom involved. Don’t be a worm — accept that you fucked up, and take it next semester.
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I started giving “I don’t know” 1/5, while the horrific guess / wikipedia answer that doesn’t apply to the class gets a 0.
I’m considering moving “I don’t know up to 2 — and if the on-line software can handle it, the wikipedia answer a -3 / 5.
By: PhilosopherP on 11/11/2009
at 4:06 PM
Speaking of grades, did you happen to see this article?
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/education/story/185460.html
By: Instinct on 11/11/2009
at 4:42 PM
Oh, and also I am not impressed that you “poured” over your references…
By: mommyprof on 11/11/2009
at 5:36 PM
Ahhh…”all intensive purposes.” A cousin of “irregardless” and “I could care less.”
One of my fellow 4th year students (in a doctorate program, mind you) keep telling us what drugs could “exasperate” a certain condition.
By: 4th year vet student on 11/11/2009
at 8:11 PM
I hear you on the “I spend more time checking for plagiarism than I do grading.”
I had a paper last week that was in two different fonts. Two. Different. Fonts. And the first paragraph was all illiterate and stuff, and the second paragraph on was fantastic. And, um, very reminiscent of an article I had read off a website a while back. Which it, in fact, was.
Two different fonts in a paper: big fat blinking “I PLAGIARIZED THIS” sign.
By: fillyjonk on 11/11/2009
at 9:25 PM
“When worse comes to worst.” That one kills me. I know proper enunciation has fallen out of favour, but is it too hard to think through the intent of the phrase when using it in a written work?
Jim
By: Jim on 11/11/2009
at 9:27 PM
Wait…I can sic my mom on my professors if they don’t bend to my will? Crap…and all this time, I’ve been doing the work and asking my professors for help.
By: Sarah on 11/11/2009
at 9:32 PM
Getting your mom to call? Srsly? LOL!
I’d be interested (not intrested) to know how many papers are written in lolcat.
By: daddyquatro on 11/11/2009
at 10:29 PM
“•It’s “for all intents and purposes,” not “for all intensive purposes.” Don’t make me want to club you with my Norton anthology.”
I have in the past seen (and heard) “supposively”. And absolutely no one except myself and probably Cranky appears to know the difference between “reign”, “rein”, and “rain” (as in “giving someone free “reign/rein/rain”.)
By: DrBenway on 11/11/2009
at 11:03 PM
DrBenway,
I fight against “supposively” a lot (not alot or allot). My under-the-radar favorite lately is “We are not aloud to do this.”
By: GDad on 11/12/2009
at 7:35 AM
I know people who talk and write like the examples you give. It irritates me. I don’t have a college degree and wouldn’t willing take your course ( I will discuss with you why, but not here if you want ).
Dr Benway – Reign – to rule. Rein – used to steer horses. Rain – falls from the sky (simple definitions)
What do I win? ( a bachelors degree would be nice, then I could get my teaching cert and not actually have to go to college).
By: Eric on 11/12/2009
at 7:51 AM
At my uni, everyone — regardless of major — has to take Comp I and II, whether they’re willing to or not, because they are considered core courses.
Frankly, a lot of the students who don’t want to be in the basic comps are the ones who need it the most.
Hit my mail with your reasoning — it’s under the research tab.
By: crankylitprof on 11/12/2009
at 8:24 AM
Students A, C, and L: “It’s not fair for you to grade for grammar as well as content! This is not an English class!”
Instructor, “As it says in the syllabus, if I cannot understand what you are trying to say, how can I grade your ideas?”
Students: “Um. . .”
By: LittleRed1 on 11/12/2009
at 8:59 AM
“Dr Benway – Reign – to rule. Rein – used to steer horses. Rain – falls from the sky (simple definitions) What do I win?”
Nothing, yet, First you have to tell me the correct usage when you give someone free ____ .
By: DrBenway on 11/12/2009
at 10:25 AM
On your second point- frankly you (and by you I mean the general population of professors/TAs/graders) bring this upon yourselves. There have been SO many times I’ve heard a student give an exam to the professor/TA/grader and say something like “I think I deserve more points on this” as in, more partial credit points for an incorrect answer. And the prof/TA/grader says something “okay I’ll take a look at it” or “you’re probably right” plenty of times. As in, those who ask get more points. If the grading system for points was clear laid out ahead of time, why are you rewarding more points merely for asking? Are you serious? I’m not saying YOU do this personally, but it’s very frustrating to watch it go on in a majority of my classes.
By: FrauTech on 11/12/2009
at 12:48 PM
FrauTech:
I have never discounted that I “may” have made a mistake in grading a particular assignement when I taught. There was always a note on the syllabus that said something to the effect that, “I’d be happy to look at your test/assignment a second time – however that will include a re-grading of the ENTIRE assignment, not just the questions which you may have thought were misgraded. This may result in a LOWER grade that you originally received. Only the regraded exam score will be recorded.”
Inevitably, there would always be one student per semester that would take me up on the offer – and equally inevitably the grade would be LOWER than the original.
When the wailing stopped long enough for me to answer the “why…” question, I offered up the simple, straightforward answer:
“I originally graded 65-plus exams over the course of the weekend, two weeks ago. This weekend, I was able to concentrate on only yours because you wanted to make sure that I gave you the highest quality feedback on your work as possible. I’m sorry that it resulted in a lower grade, but those are the chances you take when you want me to take my weekend to scrutinize your personal work. Please see the syllabus, page 4 and have a nice day.”
As I said – it only occured about once per semester.
By: H the IH on 11/12/2009
at 1:19 PM
“Nothing, yet, First you have to tell me the correct usage when you give someone free ____ .”
You give someone free rein, as in dropping the reins and allowing the horse to go where it will.
Misunderstanding of common expressions drives me a little crazy. I’m a technical writer by trade & avocation, but find myself cringing at the abuse of our lovely language that frequently happens on the Internet. Fortunately for my sanity, I don’t have to grade written tests (at least, nothing but multiple guess and True/False), but I truly feel for those of you who have to be exposed to the general and persistent ignorance of the products of our “modern” educational system. I bow to your devotion and dedication, and thank the FSM that it’s you and not me.
BTW, how’re they doing these days with the I/me switch-up? My kids caught on pretty quickly, but there still seems to be a whole lot of “Jake & me went to the movies” going on in the world.
By: Mithras61 on 11/12/2009
at 8:06 PM
DrBenway,
I personally don’t know which is correct, but I have seen defenses for both “free reign” and “free rein;” the first stemming from allowing a king to rule without limit, and the other to letting a horse run without restraint.
Which is right (if either)?
By: Nikki on 11/12/2009
at 9:32 PM
“You give someone free rein, as in dropping the reins and allowing the horse to go where it will.”
Correct!
By: Drenway on 11/12/2009
at 9:43 PM
An interesting discussion, certainly.
Mithras – I feel your pain, I’ll occasionally read older technical documents (WWII or so) just to see what could be accomplished with the English language and a clear idea. Some of what I see at work nearly makes me weep.
Jim
By: Jim on 11/13/2009
at 1:56 AM
Dr b how is this one – “At the beginning of the reign of Elizabeth I the Court Astrologers were given free rein to try and prevent the rain from falling on her Coronation processional.”
By: Rick T on 11/13/2009
at 7:29 PM
Hey now, I can think of two, possibly three, sentences where intensive purposes would be useful.
As for ‘I could care less’, I’ve always assumed it to be a shortening of the sentence “I could care less but I’m not sure how” rather than just a dropping of the contraction. At least, that’s how I’ve used it in conversations. I don’t think I’ve ever used it in an actual paper.
By: ravenshrike on 11/13/2009
at 8:29 PM
Giving someone free reign is going to be nothing but trouble. It’s sort of like “power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
By: OrangeNeckInNY on 11/14/2009
at 12:36 AM
Then again, when you give someone “free rein,” you’re allowing that person total autonomy to go in whatever direction he/she chooses.
By: OrangeNeckInNY on 11/14/2009
at 12:39 AM
Hear hear! [raising glass] I toast your children’s-asses-kickingness, Cranky.
By: Miss Kitty on 11/14/2009
at 2:07 PM
Oh, and I think I’m going to steal some of the misheard phrases in this post/these comments. My students need to find out sometime what’s correct and what’s not. And I swear I’ll scream if I read “irregardless” in a paper one more time.
By: Miss Kitty on 11/14/2009
at 2:08 PM
Can anyone explain to me why students are now placing apostrophes in plurals? It is driving me INSANE.
I now have three in honor court for pasting Wikipedia and handing it in as a paper. And they all claim that since they also pasted in the notes used by Wikipedia, this should be OK. When asked if they had actually read any of those sources, they all looked confused.
By: profart on 11/14/2009
at 5:21 PM
I’ll give people some free rain . . . FOB here.
We have an excess, since we got around an inch (2.5cm) each Monday and Tuesday . . . and it’s on course to do that again the next couple of days.
Just tell me where to ship it . . .
As far as the apostophes in plurals, I have no idea, but it’s definitely enough to drive you insane!
Some time ago, I got chewed out for using [i]indices[/i] as the plural of [i]index[/i] . . .
–Webfoot Logger
By: Webfoot Logger on 11/19/2009
at 2:03 PM
Ma’am, I hate to correct a lit prof, but I do beg you not to write “pathetic” when what I think you really mean is “pitiable.”
By: Justthisguy on 11/19/2009
at 9:37 PM